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A while ago I wrote an article called 100 Survival Items You Forgot To Put In Your Bug Out Bag. Several readers complained, saying things like, “How the hell am I supposed to fit all this stuff in my bug out bag?” Well, you’re not. The point of the article is to tell people about any items they would have included but either forgot about or hadn’t considered yet.
Every bug out bag should be 100% unique. Sure, there are some basic items that every bug out bag should have (food, lighter, water filter, flashlight, etc.), but you should customize your bag based on where you live, what type of disaster is most likely to occur in your area, and how much weight you can carry over a long distance. Many preppers forget about that last point.
If your bag is so heavy that you can’t carry it more than a few miles, you’ll have to ditch some of the items, anyway. And what’s going to happen if you have to run from attackers, jump walls, and climb fences? Having a bag that’s too heavy could get you killed. Ideally, a bug out bag should weigh about 15% of your body weight, assuming you’re in decent shape. 20% of your body weight should be the absolute maximum.
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So despite the impression many people got from my “50 Items” article, I don’t think you should pack your bug out bag with as many items as possible. In fact, I think you should check your bag for any non-essential items with a large weight-to-space ratio and remove them. To that end, here’s a list of survival items I’ve seen in various lists online that, in my opinion, you don’t really need in your bug out bag.
Note: These are merely suggestions so please don’t follow my advice blindly. Use your best judgment before throwing anything away.
17 Items You DON’T Need in Your Bug Out Bag
1. Sleeping Bags
Instead of heavy sleeping bags, just take a couple of emergency bivvies. Of course, this depends on where you live and the time of year. Here in the South, these will do just fine 10 months out of the year, but up north they might not be enough.
2. Tent
Instead of a heavy tent, just get a tarp and some cordage so you can build a shelter. Doing this could take 5 to 10 pounds off the weight of your bag.
3. Camping Tripods
Another 5 to 10 pounds you don’t need. Why carry something like this when you can make your own using sticks? Just find three long and sturdy sticks and tie them together. Other than that, all you need is a hook and a cord from which to hang your cooking pot.
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4. Camping Lantern
This is nothing but a big waste of space. Just use your flashlight or build a fire if you need light.
5. Flare Gun
Unless you think you’re going to end up on a desert island, there’s no reason you need a flare gun. Besides, there are better ways to make yourself seen, the best of which is to build a large fire. You could also use a signaling mirror or a brightly-colored tarp.
6. Bottled Water
Unless you live in the middle of a very dry desert, you should carry a water filter instead. Of course, this means you’ll have to know how to find and purify water. If you think it will take a while to find water, then everyone in your group could carry a liter or two of water just in case.
7. Canned Food
Because of all the water in it, canned food is just too heavy for the amount of calories you get. You’re better off getting freeze-dried food and rehydrating it with water you find.
8. Cast Iron Skillets
Cast iron cookware is WAY too heavy to take with you. Just bring a small cookset instead. This one is just over half a pound.
9. Plateware, Utensils, etc.
Some people pack extra bowls, cups, plates, forks, etc., but you don’t really need all that. Just bring a spork and eat your food right out of the pot or package.
10. Toiletries
Things like shampoo, deodorant, and mouthwash aren’t really essential. Yes, bring some camp soap and toothpaste, but if you’re bugging out it won’t matter if your hair is shiny or if your breath is minty. Remember, you’re not bugging out so you can live in the wilderness for months on end. You’re bugging out until you can get to a safe location.
11. Medications
Don’t pack a whole bottle of aspirin or a whole bottle of allergy medication. It could take a long time to get through all that. Instead, take out enough pills to last a week and put them in mini ziplock bags.
12. Survival Books
Books weigh a lot, but knowledge doesn’t weigh anything. Instead of taking a bunch of heavy books with you, just study the information in those books so you’ll have it in your head when you need it. There is one possible exception, though. The pocket-size edition of the SAS Survival Guide is only 7 ounces and is crammed with great information.
13. Games
Travel size games are fun and can help pass the time, but you don’t really need them. If you’re bugging out, you’re going to be busy walking, foraging, cooking, etc. One possible exception is a deck of cards. You can play several games with it and it only weighs a third of an ounce. Better yet, get a deck with survival tips printed on it.
14. Heavy Tools
It’s tempting to stuff all your favorite tools–saw, wire cutters, socket wrench, etc.–into your bag, but how likely are you to actually need them? If you’re bugging out, you probably won’t be cutting down trees or fixing cars. You also don’t need things like can openers and screwdrivers as long as you have a decent multitool such as a Leatherman.
15. Backup Gear
The rule of “two is one, one is none” is very true, but if you’re just trying to survive outdoors for a few days, there’s no need to be bogged down with too many backup tools and supplies. Of course, use your best judgment. Having some water purification tablets in addition to a water filter is okay.
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The only other exception is fire starters. Lighters, matches, and Ferro rods don’t weigh much and fire is extremely important, but having an extra tarp or an extra radio seems unnecessary. Take a good look at all your backups and consider their weight and how likely you are to actually need them.
16. Extra Pants
Pants, especially jeans, can be pretty heavy. I recommend just wearing the ones you have on. Sure, they’ll get dirty, but deal with it. This isn’t a vacation. Just bring a skivvy roll.
17. Extra Ammo
It’s okay to carry a gun and a little bit of ammo for self defense. But frankly, if you need more than a dozen rounds then you’re probably screwed, anyway.
A Few More Tips to Lighten Your Bug Out Bag
If you get rid of all these things and your bag is still a bit heavier than you’d like, there are a few other things you can do.
• Get Lighter Versions of Items – For example, if you can find a hatchet that’s a pound lighter than the one you have, a radio that’s a couple pounds lighter than the one you have, and so forth, then eventually you can have all the same types of items but a much lighter bag. Here are some more ideas.
• Bring Multipurpose Items – You’ll save a lot of space and weight if you bring items that can be used for many different things. For example, a multitool, a flashlight/radio combo, and small, useful items like bandanas, paper clips, dental floss, and so forth.
• Lighten Your Stuff – For example, cut down the handle on your toothbrush, drill holes in non-vital parts of equipment, cut off unnecessary straps and pieces of cloth on things, etc. There’s a lot you can do if you’re creative.
• Get in Shape – This is one of the best things you can do. Every day, put on your bug out bag and go for a walk. Eventually, your muscles will adapt and it won’t seem very heavy anymore.
Hopefully, this information will help you significantly reduce the weight of your bug out bag. If you end up having to walk a huge distance after a disaster, it could mean the difference between life and death.
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I will take some water with me, so that I can keep moving from a dangerous area without stopping for water, at least for a while. Two bottles, actually. One to drink and finish ASAP, and the other as needed. Once I’m in a safer place, I can get out the filter, heat water, whatever.If I REALLY need to ditch weight, I probably already screwed up a lot, and those two bottles can be dropped in seconds, anyway.
I think some folks reading this are seeing “BOB” and thinking “INCH”.
I’m 70 and couldn’t agree more with you. I can’t do 99% of what I used to do and I have no defined health issues other than what old age brings on. Just too tied and too out of shape. Ya, it’s easy for others to tell me that I need to exercise. I get it and they’re right, but just the same it’s EXTREMELY difficult for me. EXTREMELY.
The ONLY youngest thing I do is still ride my Harley and ride it hard, but that benefits me in no way regarding this topic, so in a matter of speaking, it sucks to be me.
I went to bed last night at age 17 and when I woke up this morning and swung my legs outta’ bed and looked in the mirror, I saw this 70 year old version of me.
It goes exactly THAT fast.
When I first started this Prepping/SHTF journey, I was all over it. The best rated bags, equipment, supplies and paraphernalia I could buy. Reality hit me upside the head later on (I wish it had hit me earlier, as it would have saved me money).
The reality is this, I’m 60 years old, with a chronic and debilitating disease, Degeneraitive Joint Disease, which limits what I can and cannot do. Along with that, CHF, COPD Mechanical Heart Valves go along with the DJD.It’s 60 miles to my BO Location. 20 years ago, I could have easily walked there in 2-3 days. Now, I”d be lucky to do 5 miles a day, with a burden, it could be less than that. The only feasible way I could make this journey unscathed is by driving. So why focus on some aspect of surviving that will be impossible for me to perform?
So, my attention has turned to Bugging In rather than emphasis on Bugging Out. I still have Bug Out supplies, but they’re more INCH than Bug Out, and in preloaded crates, we can place in the back of our SUV. The wife and I have tested this plan, and between the two of us, we can load and be on the road in 20 minutes.
My point here is that it behooves you to look at your situation realistically. Let the reality of your situation and circumstances drive you, not just the fear and uncertainties of a SHTF world. Long term I know I won’t survive this. Once the medications I take are no longer available, the chances of surviving drops to the single digits. There’s no natural, herbal or homeopathic alternatives for some of the conditions I have.
Just one Auld Fart’s take on Prepping.
I’m 65yo, not in great shape and I live on a farm with a well and my supplies and equipment so I am planning on bugging in with my family and friends.
Although i agree for the most part, Sometimes it is better to lighten the load once SHTF.
You never actually know what you will need until the time arrives, So it is better to pack it all.
If it is properly organized then it only take a few minutes to dump the bag, re-sort it and go.
Which would be good to do it you see indications of SHTF. Like massive protests, rioting etc.
Even if you have to sort it on the go, at your first rest break, that is ok too.
The Fallacy that you will be jumping walls and crawling over things with a to heavy a bag is BS.
If that is the case, then you do not have a good bug out plan ( route, timing, etc) and probably won’t survive in the short term, let alone in the long term.
As far as tools go; they should be minimal, however a good mini pry bar and a set of lock picks would be a good thing to have with you.
You might have to break into some where to find some shelter or supplies
If it was cold and snowing hard, a cabin would offer better protection than anything that you could quickly build.
In talking about things that should not be in a bug out bag, one thing that is often left out is Survival cashes.
If you can walk to your Bug out location in less than 3 days , you are probably to close to civilization. So if you really want to cut the weight, you need to cache some of those supplies at locations along the way.
This is where your extra food, water and ammo should be located,
The needing only a few rounds of ammo, is a stupid comment. You never really know what you might need. But don’t carry it ,cache it.
Not everyone can rely on a water filter, as water might not be that available to you if you live n a desert or certain other areas.
Or other dangerous groups might be controlling access to the water sources.
It won’t take long for Gangs and other groups to realize that water will be more valuable than gold, silver or food.
So beware relying only on a filter. You need a good canteen (or two) with you.
Military style canteens, with (a belt) and cover and a canteen cup are great to have with you.
so versatile and take up very little space. Camel back units are not really designed for long term, ruff duty use, as will be required by SHTF. They are part of the disposable society, with built in obsolescence.
So look at you situation, your BO route and other factors and make your plans accordingly.
Problem with caches is that nearly all property anywhere close to a city is OWNED by someone.
Kinda hard to store a cache on someone else’s property.
If they gave you permission, who is to say they themselves won’t take it?
Aside from a natural disaster or martial law, just bug in as best you can.
At least you have much of what you need with you, shelter too.
Excellent article. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Good article. So many list so much stuff to cover too many senarios. Like I need an axe, a bow saw with extra blades and a machete. A ccoking grate, tripod and coffee pot. Coffee, tea and hot chocolate with marshmallows. You are spot on.
One thing that the article doesn’t reference is “How many people will there be in your Bug Out party?” The point being, that although there are some items that need to be in everyones B.O.B, there are others that don’t require duplication. Figuring out which items can be used by all the members of your party can reduce duplicating these items in each bag. For example, does everyone in your party need to carry a 1 quart backpacking pot, or will 1 or 2 suffice for your whole group? Those types of items can then be parceled out to the members of the group, and cut the weight down.
A lot of prepping is an exercise in academics. There’s a dearth of information out there, some good and some rather asinine. One reason I prefer this site to others is because you can see the authors put some thought and common sense into their articles.
There’s always going to be the debate of Bugging In v. Bugging Out, and that is really our job as readers and posters to decide which is best for us and determine the situations/scenarios we may be faced with. What degree of societal collapse do we need to see, before we get the heck out of town? Obviously, the more rural your location is, the higher the probability of staying in place will be. One’s health, general level of physical conditioning and age are all factors we need to consider. It’s easy to say “Get into shape,” but the reality is that may not be possible for some of us with long standing health problems. For those of us incapable of increasing our strength or endurance, Bugging Out may be our last option.
Yes, this is something that often goes overlooked. I wouldn’t COUNT on everyone being there for a bug out situation, as by nature you never know where everyone might be at the moment and if they will all be there with you, but spreading the weight across several people can make a huge difference. Suddenly an unfathomable 50 pound carry load becomes more than reasonable with a family of 5.
Though I don’t have to tell anyone here (but I will anyway)- never count on things going according to plan. You should all have the essentials in each of your bags. Once that is taken care of, you can start adding “optional” niceties that will add some comfort or convenience and distribute across your team.
People ask if I was in the military. Yeah, but it was 80 lbs and 40 years ago. Special Forces “A TEAM” medic in fact. But I forgot a lot of that. I carried 120 lb rut when we moved out, but about 40 lbs of ammo and grenades on patrol. I have 2 dozen ruts now, from patrol size to major moveout size. I put 80 lbs of cat litter (we have a cat rescue) to practice the other day … and I had a very hard time to get up with it. So I dropped that to 40 and hit the treadmill 3 miles and 3 mph. I will need to do that for awhile before increasing the weight. I’m 220 wanting 180 but at 66 yrs it’s becoming harder to do things. Hips, knees, shoulders, knuckles .. they are all stiff and ache. So I may have to cut back. But to tell someone just bring 12 rounds of ammo …… that’s crazy. Get an AR in 22 cal, the Ruger Takedown fits well in our ruts. 300 rnds of 22lr is light. I have a Glock M22 40 can with a 22 conversion that works great, same for 1911 45 / 22. In reality, it all comes down as to what the threat is perceived to be. CPAP: my new one is 10 oz, and 6 days of rechargeable batteries are 4 lbs. Solar panel or 110 to recharge the batteries. Forget the CPAP = loud snoring and dog tired wakeup.
Good luck. The best advice is to get into and stay in shape.
What about the actual bag? Which kind of backpack is best to carry all this survival gear, an everyday backpack or a hiking pack with a frame? I would like to make a BOB. I have been gathering the things I would need but….about that bag.
I BOB kit is carried in a 20l cycling pack. In the winter i just add a sleeping bag but in horse shoe style bit like the American soldiers during the American civil war. My kit is base on Grey bearded green beret over on youtube I added a hygiene kit unlike his.
Everyone’s needs when they Bug Out are different. So your Bug Out Bag should suit your needs. Your size/strength, number in party, where you plan to go and for how long will determine what goes in the bag. Bigger groups can share load weights. The only way to determine which bag works for you is to research and try the different sized and designed back packs. In the end, the weight you’ll be carrying may determine whether an external frame or internal frame will be best.
Great article! The stuffs that you listed that are not really necessary to bring when bugging out are all on point. But I think flares can be a good item to bring whenever you plan to bug out with your friends or family. Flares can be really helpful especially when you are in need of held and you want someone to know your exact location.
There is an article that I’ve written regarding the essentials to consider when choosing your survival gear for your bug out bag. You can check it here: http://crisissurvivortips.com/the-5-essentials-to-consider-when-choosing-your-survival-gear/
Cheers!
Also flares can be a decent weapon
Flares can also start a fire when you are suffering from hypothermia and can’t strike a match let alone use a flint and steel. A lot depends on where you are and the weather.
Survival books: get the e-book equipment, like kindle: you can have dozens of survival, language, agriculture, machinery, leisure etc. books (and even WLAN connection). With a full battery it lasts 3 weeks and with extra power source you can triple that.
Of course reading books is not the most useful think when SHTF, but just came to my mind.
I used to have bug out bag but not anymore because we are living in the end times, the rapture and the 7 year Tribulation are right around the corner. Get rapture ready, people: accept JESUS CHRIST as your personal Lord and Savior who paid on the cross for our sins and came back to life on the 3rd day!!! We have to come to the cross as broken sinners.
This is True Jesus Christ is coming what if we are to experience some of the end times but protected Psalm 91 and to bring souls to Christ in disaster. You being not prepared you may suffer more than one in Christ whom is prepared. No one knows the hour of his coming, God said be prepared, not sit on your butt.
No offense, but I’m going to remain prepared with a bag and do my thing. When SHTF, I’m going to be ready to survive and put my faith in something I know will keep me alive and ready.
just because the rapture is coming some day, doesn’t mean you want yourself and your family caught unprepared in some S*** show like the aftermath of a hurricane, tornado, or an earthquake, look at hurricane katrina for example
In most parts of the earth its invading armies that are the main problem.
People with guns tend to be lowest form of animal life on the earth, that have no mercy for babies or innocent adults. One person I used to know became a hero by helping kill 100,000 civilians fleeing an invasion of a city. The good thing is his house caught fire and he was heard by neighbours screaming while being roasted alive for his sins; he did not have to go to hell first.
I see a lot of natural disasters and civil unrest worldwide but not one single rapture maybe be ready for what has been and will continue to be an issue.
Actually we are not, you have been lied to.
If you actually study your Bible you would know there is #1 no Pre trib rapture.
Even the Apostles expected to go into the tribulation period. ( see Mat 24).
And Jesus did not correct them and tell them otherwise.
Secondly, the Anti Christ has a lot to do in conquering the 10 beast nations. We are talking years of wars and conquest in the Middle East, before he can move against Israel in the beginning of last days.
SHTF times come and go ( WW 1, WW 2, Korea, Vietnam,Bosnian war, Somalia, Gulf war, all affected various people in different places ) and the End Times still did not happen not yet.
Amen.
The more you know, the less you need.
It is easy to improvise most things on this list but some can’t be improvised so easy on the go, thing is if you are bugging out to a safe area you can possibly keep things minimalist, and if you are lucky enough to legally obtain firearms then a reliable compact pistol such as a Walther P22 or Springfield XD 40 can be teamed up with either take down .22lr rifle (AR7-1022tdr) or .40S&W carbine so you can have close in capabilities and also reach beyond the typical shotgun toting highway raider.
I Agree with your list with the exception to pants/ spare clothes, the point of spare clothes isn’t for if it gets dirty, the point of spare clothes is so if you go for a dunk you can get dry and not catch hypothermia(unless you want to chill naked outdoors until your clothes dry)
Russ-
Excellent point. The next question is material and season. Folks need to seasonally update their clothing depending on season with pieces of cotton or synthetic fiber, as appropriate. While wool is great, it doesn’t match the new synthetic gear. Being old military, I needed to swap out a lot.
Cotton kills. I avoid cotton in favor of wool and synthetics. Cotton loses all of insulative properties when it gets even slightly damp, soaked, you might as well go naked as wear cotton. Wool and some of the newer synthetics retain their insulative properties even when soaking wet.
Living in the front range of the Rockies, we don’t get the moisture from rain as much or as often as other areas of the country, but even your perspiration makes cotton all but worthless. Silk Thermals are really hard to beat. Though a tad expensive, they’re worth every penny and are probably the lightest of all the materials on the market.
AMEN well said!
“The rule of “two is one, one is none” is very true”
No it’s not. It’s pure stupidity. Even as hyperbole it’s useless.
I learned that originally about using blasting caps in C-4 -so 2 caps is one, and one could fail, so it is none.
In alternate contexts it probably loses meaning.
There’s another part to the quote “One is none and two are one”. This also means that if you have two of important items like fire starters, knives, etc., you also have a “spare” tool that can be given to someone needing to replace a lost or broken item.
Awesome list of what you don’t really need in your bug out bag.
Many of us start out with bug out bags by putting way too much junk in them. We forget that the focus is on bare necessities for survival only. Comfort items can be taken out of the pack.
Nice work on listing several ideas for folks to lighten their BOB loads.
Good list. Too much focus in a lot of places on what to include and then the bag ends up weighing more than someone can carry for a hundred yards. If you are in a true bugout situation then moving fast and light is going to be important.
Part of the problem here is in why you are building a BoB.
If it is to flee a natural disaster,in normal times, then most of the stuff listed here is unnecessary.
However if it is for SHTF or National Civil Disturbance, then that is a different story.
I would rather have a over loaded Bug out bag, and have to ditch stuff, rather than need some thing and not have it. Mine is designed to be thrown into a vehicle as a emergency kit. If I have to walk out then I would consider removing certain items, As they are all packaged into groups of items, it is possible to quickly go through it.
Also the idea of having two of some essential items like fire making and water purification are good ideas.
They might allow you to trade some of them for something you forgot or now find your self in need of.
Like bandages or first aid stuff that you have used up already.
Another item not mentioned is a small pry bar or locksmith tools. In some areas there may be locations that have food or shelter that you need access to, that are locked.
You might want to re secure them behind you, so you don’t want to destroy it, just to defeat it and gain entry.
Amen
At least one set of extra pants are essential
for women, we leak sometimes and if you are worried about weight just buy some
scrubs; they are tough, conferrable, and dry quickly after washing
Scrubs are an excellent idea for back up pants, I had not considered them before. I am going to suggest that to my survival group friends.
sorry Paul…if you get a Lifesaver bottle, it does filter bacteria…in fact it filters everything. And its good for 1000s of litres. http://www.iconlifesaver.eu/ Theres lots in the article I agree with, and lots I don’t. Get an SAS style hammock with shelter for over top and at least be comfortable. An ultra light sleeping bag weights less that 12 ozs and is a whole lot more comfortable than an emergency blanket. There are so many LED lights out there that you can pack a small crank or solar rechargeable light. Fire might bring the baddies. Better to be safe and unseen than seen an unsafe.
I completely agree with the Hammock, I keep a small tarp that covers my hammock, and a bug net that goes around my hammock and it all compresses together to 1 1/2 lbs.
I like your addition of a bug net. One thing I noticed is that the author correctly says to save space and weight to just pack a tarp. However, where I live, from late May to late September if you don’t pack bug netting, a tent with screens or plenty of bug spray you are going to be itchy, sore and tired from no sleep because you are up all night swatting mosquitoes
Folks, I think that y’all need to Think about WHY you would even Need these “Bug-Out Bags” in the first place. In thinking about your response, let me give you some food for thought.
We are going to Need Long Term Gear because we will be at WAR. A Civil war, as a matter of fact. This is not going to be like Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, etc., etc. So, when it comes to the ESSENTIALS, there shouldn’t even be a Thought of “Games”, “Bipods”, “Frisbees”, or any such ‘stuff’ should not be a consideration. Simply put, unless you plan on joining up with a Group where there are enough people so that you can afford to actually have time to “Play” -when you [will] NEED time to eat, clean yourself, and then sleep: not to mention those Unknown Factors, such as Wood gathering, Repairs to equipment (Tents, Clothes, Weapons, Boots, Etc.), Catching/Cleaning/Cooking food (Then the clean up of it all) we are not going to have the Luxury of all this ‘stuff’. Seriously!
If I am coming across as rude, I apologize; however, I really think that it needs to be said: Stop “Prepping” for the Short-Haul. And look at this as a LONG HAUL Investment. Because Ladies and Gentlemen; We Will Be In This To WIN. NOT “Hang Out” and ‘Hope’ for the Best.
For the love of God, people, Please; Wake up and smell the coffee!
A BOB is the minimum equipment you need (depending on your skill set) to get from point A to point B. It is not meant to last a month or a year or ten years. If you don’t have long term gear at point B and you can’t stay at point A, you’re better off in a FEMA camp. Point B can be anything from a motel to a relative’s house to a cabin deep in the woods someplace but you have to get there when the going gets tough. That’s why a BOB is important. What I think people fail to understand is that what takes 72 hours in good times might take two weeks or more in tough times and that BOB needs to get you through. Hunting, fishing, trapping and foraging are required skills in that case; you can’t rely solely on what you can carry on your back.
Sorry Paul, but I disagree with you on that. You’re assuming that your Stash at Point B will still be there. Or that it will be safe to go there. And if you only carry what you hope will be needed to get to Point B, and cannot make it there -for what ever reason(s)- then what?
I do however, agree that your BOB should contain what you need to Survive for much longer than anticipated, and that we should not rely solely on what you have on your back.
Paul, as you know, even the Best laid plans fall apart. Would you agree? Well, that is what ‘Life’ has taught me. And maybe I am just being delusional; but in my mind; when I strap that BOB onto my Back, it’s going to be because it is Life Threatening. So why Wait to Make it to point B? Why not be ready to bring it, from where you’re at?
If you think about it, when it comes down to throwing that bag on, I believe, it is going to be because They’re Already hunting us! So WHY Wait???
That’s true, we do. It’s clear that we can’t carry everything to survive for a year or more on our backs and we count on our stash at point B. If it’s not there, we do the best we can, go to a FEMA camp or die. What are our alternatives? I think that most people will go to point B if they see the problem before it arrives (hurricane) but a surprise nuclear attack on Houston (in my case) would necessitate a quick exit along with everyone else still alive. As to ‘bring it’, I certainly would if a. I had an operational vehicle and b. the roads were clear enough to get around minor obstacles – I don’t and won’t have a two ton or half track at my disposal. If not of if my vehicle becomes untenable along the way, I’ll put on my boots and my BOB and do the best I can. As you say, there are many scenarios.
I think where the mix up is coming from, on my part; is that I am seeing a BOB differently than you, and others, Paul.
Probably; a BOB is just one more tool to help us get through. No doubt we’d all like to load up our vehicles and drive leisurely to our BOL three days before TEOTWAWKI hits but we know it might not happen that way.
Steve & Paul-
I think you’re both correct, although you are addressing separate threat levels and emergencies (civil disobedience vs. natural disaster). I keep a basic bag, plus a small box with optionals that can be quickly loaded, depending on the threat. I realize this may take precious seconds, so this is time dependent. I live in the Chicago area, so civil unrest is a greater concern, and my firearms choice reflects this probable eventuality.
I have to agree with Steve: I have a bug out bag ready in case the SHTF. That doesn’t mean that there’s going to be a lot of “safe places” to run to. If we get together with like minded people, we can make a long term plan. The only reason for a “three day bag” is if “they” are coming for you specifically and you can go to another sane location. I personally have packed a .22 revolver and 200 rds., carry a .38 Special and pack 100 rds., and shoulder a Saiga .223 carbine with 200 rds. of “penetrators”, FMJ, and some soft point if I need to take a little larger animal. And, another thing, if you pack “pills” in a baggie and happen to get stopped along the way, you can bet on a trip to the station!
On point number 9. It is best to try and reduce the carry weight but having utensils can drag you down. One solution that I have used is to take a frisbee instead of a plate. Its lightweight, easily cleaned, can be a water dish for any pets, they can be brightly colored for signaling and it has the added bonus of being a toy. A little stress relief can go a long way when times are rough.
That’s not a bad idea. I actually really enjoy playing frisbee, maybe I’ll add that to my bag after all.
That’s actually a really good idea.
I agree with all except this one, “you should carry a water filter instead.” That water filter does NOT filter viruses which can incapacitate or kill just as quickly as can the bacteria it does eliminate. Carry purification tablets & a couple gallon sized double-ziplock baggies or an aluminum/titanium pot (multiple uses) or learn about SODIS instead. Why plan to fail?
hahahahahahahahahahaha. A water filter is much easier to use, doesn’t spoil, and lasts longer than those tablets. Also, you question the ability of the filter to completely purify water. If you are that concerned about thhat water being 100% sterile, boil the stuff.
Besides, I have used a water filter (https://sawyer.com/products/sawyer-mini-filter/) on a regular basis for years and years to filter questionable water while hiking and camping, I have had zero incidents.
On another note, the only thing I had trouble with was #1. Yes, sleeping bags are big and fat and are a pain to carry, but they will make up for it in heat. You need that heat, at least here in the Pacific Northwest where I live. You use a space blanket or bivvy, you get either a miserable night (lucky), or hypothermia (normal). I wouldn’t mind packing a bivvy instead if I lived in a warmer climate, but seriously, don’t skimp on the sleeping bag.
Bill, I got a 404 Page Unavailable on that link, so I looked up some others on Amazon. What is your opinion of the AquaPura (3 Stage) Water Purifier? It works up to 396 gal. (http://www.amazon.com/Camping-3-Stage-Filtration-LIFETIME-WARRANTY/dp/B00VOR9IWY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1450770677&sr=8-10&keywords=Sawyer+water+purifier)
I would not trust ANY of those personal water filters that did not have an anti-viral component to them. Theoretically the embedded silver ions in the AquaPura would do that but I’d like to see some study results done (both microbiological and viral) on the 350th gallon of water.
Viral pathogens most often found in water are typically Hepatitis A, Norwalk and Rotovirus, all of which are smaller than most filters are incapable of trapping. They’re species specific which means human to human transmission, and all 3 are associated most often with fecal contamination, thus the further you get from population centers, the lower the risk becomes. For viral coverage, water purification is needed to kill the virus. Chlorine base chemicals are the best treatment next to boiling. UV pens and filter add-ons work good, but are not as effective as heat/chemical treatment. If you know the area you’re heading to, has a previous reputation of human traffic (like campgrounds), then avoid the UV treatment. If the area you’re in is not a high traffic area, UV is alright for use, but personally, I’d rather heat or chemically treat to be sure, and just bypass the expense and extra weight of a UV purifier.
A lot of folks like the Lifestraw, but I prefer the Sawyer Mini. Sawyers have a much higher lifespan than Lifestraws, and locally only cost a couple of bucks more. Sawyers can be used on a hydration bladder or as the filter in a bucket system, whereas Lifestraws are really just a straw that filters.
“, boil the stuff”. . .BINGO!! Excellent advice – plan to succeed! But carry the purification tablets as a back up where you can’t or don’t want to build a fire.
“, I have had zero incidents.”. . .it only takes one to ruin your life.