In the prepper community, there’s a lot of discussion about what bad guys will do after the collapse. We hear scary talk about gangs of looters ransacking one neighborhood after another, but we don’t hear much about gangs of good guys keeping the peace. That’s what a sheepdog gang is: a group of good guys with guns who won’t tolerate lawlessness. And in America, there will be plenty of them.
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Not only that, there are many types of sheepdog gangs that will form. It just depends on the type of people and part of the country where it happens. In this video, Reality Survival & Prepping explains where these gangs will come from. Here’s his list:
- Churches
- Men’s Organizations
- First Responders
- Sheriff’s Deputies
- Neighborhood Groups
- Veteran’s Groups
- Militias
- Small Towns
- Rural Farms/Ranches
- Active Military Units
Watch the video below to learn more about this topic. I found it very reassuring.
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Disasters whether man made or natural tend to bring out the best and the worst in a person.
To survive a disaster many people will band together. Those who have certain skills and experience will be highly valued.
I don’t think you can count on any of those groups.
Most of the church groups are either pacifists or have an us 4 and no more mentality.
Some group might choose to force mass conversions.
Militias, the military and veterans groups are always a problem. They are used to seeing and using force to get things done their way. Depending upon what “their way is”, will make all the difference.
The same goes for LEO groups. Many cops are crooked already , so don’t bet more won’t adapt over to that lifestyle..
Then al lot of all of those groups will go” every man (family) , for themselves” and bug out leaving everyone else hanging.
Most Leos and First responders and a lot of the military realize that the gangs and criminals are barely kept in check now, once SHTF they will overwhelm the system and it will collapse.
There is a lot of hatred in those groups for authority figures and will be looking to get ” even” with them(and their families) or anyone else they can get ahold of,
So it is doubtful they will want to be noticed or identified. More than likely they will be playing the “grey man” game and not get involved.
Really? In New Zealand (1200 miles to the west is a little island called Australia) the exact OPPOSITE tends to happen. When the chips are down the LEO’s and others nominally in control step up, way way up, and keep order.
I’d expect them to keep the riff raff well and truly under control.
My 7 cents worth… inflation and currency etc.
I don’t know if we can really say who will be the sheepdogs and who will be the wolves in that kind of situation. I imagine many of those groups could wind up being just as dangerous if not worse than the looters and such we often worry about. I say instead of trying to predict where sheepdog types are likely to be focuse on making yourself one and others you know.
The analogy of wolves and sheepdogs is a good one because wolves and dogs are not all that different, and a sheepdog today could be a wilddog tommorow, and vice versa.
Keep that in mind when thinking about yourself and everyone with which you have to do in a post collapse situation.
You mentioned militias. The guy who blew up the Oklahoma city Fed. Building was in a militia group at one time. A lot of those groups are gun crazy dooms day preppers. They’re the facist neo-nazis who’d like to start a race war in the U.S. . We need to find groups who don’t care about a person’s skin color; what language they speak or if a person’s dating a man or a woman.
Thanks for the subject and video on it. It is one the fast majority do not even think about, I think. I will not even start making added comments, for your reader sake .
I have been there and seen this and it is always bad, when it is near your family.
A old combat vet.and Boy Scout, be prepared.
Here in Brazil things are not going well
The left organizes attacks against the president (who wants to authorize the people to buy weapons) with the support of Congress and the Supreme Court judges.
Very bad. It won’t end well.
Collapse changes people, when the mask/mantle comes off, those who were once law abiding may turn rogue or one who lived on the edge of the legel system maybe a leader of a “sheepdog” out fit. We sorely underestimate survivors/preppers by lumping them into conservative/liberal, democrat/republican or urban/rural. I read an article one a prepper site “Do liberal preppers have the skill, supplies and attitude to survive…” Good read and the comments were even better.
We can observe what is going on in Venezuela. That country was very similar to ours in most ways prior to the communist take over. The communist revolution has been a catastrophic event for the general population, including the supporters of the revolution. The government operatives, including cops, soldiers, tax collectors and anyone else related to the regime are benefiting from the government budget but that average peon is now starving. There are no militias or other defense organizations to protect or assist the 95% that is left out. Hopefully, the USA will be different when the collapse happens, but I have my doubts.
Hello I would like to know if you know of any group that is currently preparing ??? or are you in Venezuela? or if you have facebook through which I can meet you?
Interesting. There is a lot of talk in certain circles about another pending American civil war. I’m not talking here about an attack from without, just us planning on fighting our own citizens or government. The “sheep” that need protection from the “sheepdog gangs” go about their business, as they should. Be prepared for disaster, but that should not come from within, discounting weather or nature events. The preppers cause enough commotion and angst that what they talk about, the SHTF stuff, is a self-fulfilling, foregone conclusion possibility. Are we really wanting to do battle with our own people? Who is gonna cause this supposedly imminent “collapse?” US? Is our own government and armed forces, there to serve US rather than the other way around, going to usurp the Constitution and Bill of Rights and out-and-out attack us? I find that hard to believe, but prepare for the worst and work toward the best.
We should continue to voice our opinions to our elected representatives, as inept and greedy as many of them are, and let majority rule. This republic is strong but there are SO MANY crazy people in it and it needs adjusting as we go along, not in-fighting. All opinions and reasonable input are welcomed.
You pose some very interesting questions. Number one is will our elected “servents” protect us? Or will the majority of them decide that they know what is better for us without any imput from us. I give you in example Fedirica Wilson’s recant ranton t.v. regarding those making fun of Congress. She wants government agents to track doen those people and prosecute them. Does she have a clue about the first amendment? The second amendment is currently under attack. Why ? Are they affraid that the ” ruled” may rebel? They our NOT our rulers. That’s what the revolutionary war was all about.
By the way the word amendment is ignorantly misused. These inalienable Rights are properly named ARTICLES. These are not rights given to us by the government but are ours naturally.
The second article actuall was pur in the constitution to prevent the government from becoming our rulers. This is the greatest system ever formed. If you don’t think so, live in other countries for awhile. I HAVE !!
This is a really good point. So many of the voices in prepperdom are the highly pessimistic who can imagine only the darkest side of Mad Max. Yes, there will be criminal opportunists and even gangs of ne’er-do-wells. We’ve got those now. But, I think you’re quite right that good-guys will band together too. They don’t have to face the bandits alone.